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John Morris

Maybe people are doing this because it is popular? I am not at all sure why you think it's crazy--At all. It's the isolated rural college that is somewhat questionable.

FYI-- New York University now gets far more applicants than any other college- above Harvard. ( NYU also does a booming business in continuing education which is hard to do when you are isolated.

1) you are offering students a greater sense of community and a greater level of convenience.

2) You are potentially creating chances for allumni to live near the school and contribute.

3) You are getting pottential income from land development.

4) You are making continuing ed easier-- which is the sweet spot since the population is aging.

John Morris

Maybe people are doing this because it is popular? I am not at all sure why you think it's crazy--At all. It's the isolated rural college that is somewhat questionable.

FYI-- New York University now gets far more applicants than any other college- above Harvard. ( NYU also does a booming business in continuing education which is hard to do when you are isolated.

1) you are offering students a greater sense of community and a greater level of convenience.

2) You are potentially creating chances for allumni to live near the school and contribute.

3) You are getting pottential income from land development.

4) You are making continuing ed easier-- which is the sweet spot since the population is aging.

John Morris

Here's a link to a blog post I did on this subject last year. http://johnpmorris.blogspot.com/2006/07/these-kids-aint-dumb-nyu-1.html

Mark Rauterkus

Likewise, I too have no problem with the concepts put forth in the feature article. The trend has merit. I like it.

My wife's aunt and uncle own a second home at the edge of a college, Middleburry, Vt. They love it. We've visited and love it too.

Furthermore, this is what I feel that the Penguins could and should do in Pittsburgh's airport area. They could team with RMU, DU, and others -- community wide -- of all age groups -- and make a new urban, dense, Penguin Village. That's the type of development / land deal that would make sense as a private venture.

Get a time share -- and get rights to Pens tickets.

Host other teams, sports, activities, include a business park, and much, much more than just a few warehouses and surface parking lots. I think seniors, students, families and the Penguins' players themselves would choose to live there.

Thanks for the pointer.

For me, one of the missing links to success in these developments is the hope of getting a real community -- from seniors to babies. I don't want to be among all seniors, nor all empty nesters, nor among all college students. I think it sucks that there isn't a swing set in downtown. It stinks that the South Side Works is only for those who are in grad school -- and perhaps with one in the oven -- or just born. Then there is a move to Peters Township by the time the kids are 4 years old. And, that's what the developer wanted.

I want an elementary school, international school, play spaces for people of all ages, places of worship. When a well-rounded, flexible, diverse community forms, it would go far in "defending individualism against the trend of baseless conformity in an increasingly mechanized and dehumanized society." (12 guys snip)

John Morris

Wow Mark. That kind of theme development is exacly what I have thought monster brand teams like the Steelers and NY Yankees should do. How much would people pay to live near a Steeler in Pittsburgh? But thanks to the gixeaways and subsidies these people don't have to think like business people.

John Morris

The one thing that stands out among NY schools is how ordinary most are. I did some visits to the MFA art studios at Hunter college in NY. Hunter is one of the top MFA programs. The studios were in an old factory or school-- about the worst building and broken up by half assed partitions. ( there was a decent exhibition space ) But Hunter's location on west 40th st around 9th ave puts it near the center of the art world and that's all they need.

they also don't need to spend on dorms or stuff like food, cause they have the city to provide that.

Sam M

I don't think it's crazy. And I wish them luck. Like I said, I don't know if this strategy will work in Conway.

What has me wondering is the new rhetoric of economic development. Which is looking less and less new everyday. Will Conway really benefit from a "buzz"? Maybe so. But is there a single city in America that has a development office that refuses to use this lingo? Because I want to live there. Let's say there is a buzz. Who's going to hear it? The folks in Little Rock? What, no buzz there? But that's neither here nor there. College towns can be quaint and offer a nice mix of urban and rural. Fine by me. Although I think the notion that you can't sell "bucolic" is a load of horse shit.

As for the 12 Southerners, I brought up "I'll Take My Stand" because I just taught one of the essays to my class. It was "The Hind Tit" by Andrew Nelson Lytle. In which Lytle bemoans, in dramatically nostalgic fashion, the incursion of Yankee ways into rustic Southern communities. Check it out if you are interested:

http://writing2.richmond.edu/jessid/eng423/restricted/lytle.pdf

John Morris

What amazes me here is how little integration there seems to be between the universities and the city in Pittsburgh.

Mark Rauterkus

I called for integration between the University and the city just this past week. I think Pitt should care about where its students -- especially undergrads -- are living. Housing around the Univ of Pgh is a mess. Oakland is a mess. The conditions are a mess. There have been problems.

Pitt should have a system of mediation between landlords and renters. A handy-man crew could be available too. Pitt could be much more proactive and that would mean that the city would not need to do its silly new legislation on fines for landlord for $3,000 per month to fight blight. Please.

My rant on the blog:

http://rauterkus.blogspot.com/2007/02/rental-inspection-touted-as-key-to.html

I spoke out about this today in City Council Chambers as well.

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